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Who Are You? (2)
Zam posted:"I don't think that simply thinking the issues through puts you in the center, if your positions tend to fall consistently in with the left side of those issues. Again there's nothing wrong with that, but a centrist as I define it is on the perceived left of the majority about half of the time, and right the other times. Maybe talk some more about the issues where you ARE conservative as you claim? I'd be real interested to hear your take on those, honestly."
I think I'm conservative in personal issues. For example, there's nothing conservative in the way the Republicans handled the Terri Schiavo case. In this instance, I think it's none of the federal government's business.
I think the recent Eminent Domain ruling was dangerous, which apparently is a conservative opinion, as I've been told the "liberals" fucked that one up.
I don't mind helping people (left?) but I'm not interested in handouts (right?). Wouldn't that put me in the center?
I'm on the fence about abortion. (Center? Leftist? Murderer?)
I don't think religion belongs in the government. (Conservative. Oh, no, wait, that's liberal. No, wait, liberals want everyone to get along and conservatives want the government to mind its own business... wait...)
The whole right/left thing is stupid, because it clouds honest debate, And then you get shit like "Religion in Government" tacked into "conservative", where it doesn't actually belong. There's nothing conservative about wanting to remake the country as a Christian nation. In fact, that's Radical. I, on the other hand, take the Reactionary stance that we should leave it the way it is and stop fucking around. I believe that's the traditional conservative stance.
Also, it kills me how Liberals love personal welfare, while Conservatives despise it; yet Conservatives love corporate welfare, while liberals despise it.
Anyway. Try me.
As for the compass:Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.82
So I'm an economic centrist, but a social libertarian. Okay, I'll buy that, I guess. I mean, I think sex is fine, gays are fine, nudists are fine. Frankly, as long as its between consenting adults and nobody gets injured, I could give a fuck what you do, even if it involves donkeys, Crisco and a vacuum cleaner. Just don't invite me over that night, okay?
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let's get beyond labels, shall we. If anyone's a label waiting to happen, based on one person's online quiz-o-rama, it would be me:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64
Lands me directly on the Dalai Lama...I do hope he's okay.
Conservative and liberal have tended to change over time.
I mean technically, a conservative is what you said, they want any change to be extremely slow. But that definition is not really what people mean by Conservative and Liberal any more.
Left and right same way. Was a time when the left was about entitlements, and the right about small government. But that's really changed.
For all the weirdness of it (I mean, where do neo-cons fit in?), usually we can determine the Left side of an issue and the Right side of the issue, as it's perceived by the populus.
I haven't thought much about what the barometer is, but as a guess I'd say that the current stick is: the Right favors the nation above all else, and the Left favors the individual above all else.
That would explain the pro/anti war, certainly constitutional issues, and even entitlements.
Nowadays, it really seems to be that civil liberties are the defining issue in right vs. left.
On the issues you mentioned, how I perceive left-right of them:
Schiavo case: Right says keep her alive.
Eminent Domain: Tricky, but against is probably Left.
Helping people: Conservatives want to help people too, it's the way to do it. Inconclusive.
Handouts: the Right says no handouts.
Abortion: Right says repeal Roe v. Wade. That allows states to make abortion illegal tomorrow. (I'm on the fence too, but think it should be illegal in that case.) Allow abortion in its current form is a Left position.
Religion: on any religious issue, pro-Religion=Right side of the issue... against what religion wants, then Left.
Death Penalty: from an earlier post, pro is Right, anti is Left.
New question for ya:
Iraq War, right or wrong?
Hey what was the deleted comment? The people have a right to know!
The deleted comment was deleted by TC because it had a misspelling. I know because I get all comments emailed to me.
As for Iraq War, right or wrong, I don't believe in right and wrong in anything that complex. There's clearly things that are right and things that are wrong about it.
I believe in effective/ineffective.
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